Sat 19 Apr 2025
From 4 tabs, newest LUMS IV 2025.
How many points did it take?
8points were safe
in 2025
In the middle figureOlder, not counted
Across the last 3 editions with a figure, the middle was 8 (8, 7, 8, newest first). The last team in averaged 74.6 speaks in 2025.
What will they set?
- Social & Identity25%
- Politics4 of 32
- Law & Crime4 of 32
- Economics2 of 32
Out of 32 past motions with a topic, from 4 editions.
Practise Social & Identity motionsLesson: Generating arguments
How many teams, and how many break?
12of 43 teams broke
in 2025
Field strength: Average in 2023, from the ratings of the debaters who went.
Past motions
4 editions with motions on record, newest first.
LUMS IV 20257 motions
- Round 1This house supports the use of the Moneyball strategy over traditional evaluations in team sports.Practise this motion
- Round 2TH, as an up-and-coming young game designer, W rather work in an indie studio rather than a triple A studioPractise this motion
- Round 3This House prefers British Parliamentary to 3v3 debatingPractise this motion
- Round 4Assuming the technology exists, THBT it is immoral to create simulated alternate universesPractise this motion
- SemifinalsThis house regrets the recent rise of private creditPractise this motion
- Grand FinalTHP a world in which Imran khan never entered politicsPractise this motion
- U19 FinalsTHP a world where religions did not place emphasis on central historical figures (e.g., Prophet Muhammad in Islam, Jesus Christ in Christianity)Practise this motion
LUMS IV 20248 motions
- Round 1THR the popularity of success stories of immigrants who have made it in the developed world (e.g. Malaysian students studying in Oxford, Michelle Yeoh becoming an A-List actress)Practise this motion
- Round 2TH, as the scientist, W not reveal the discoveryPractise this motion
- Round 3When they are not part of that religion, THBT feminists should refrain from critiquing widespread religious practices that have different rules based on gender (e.g. wearing of veils, separate prayer spaces, women on their period being forbidden from fasting, Iddah (waiting) period after divorce/death of a husband, etc.)Practise this motion
- Round 4THR the replacement of unorganized skilled labor with Gig economy startups (rickshaw, taxi drivers with Uber | Electricians, mechanics with RepairPal| real estate agents with zameen.com)Practise this motion
- Partial SemifinalsWhen dealing with historically under-privileged groups, this house prefers economic reparations (e.g. direct payments, community investment, reappropriation of industry) over political reparations (e.g. additional vote-weighting, quotas in parliament, granting of autonomous control over land).Practise this motion
- SemifinalsTHR the rise of India under Modi's BJPPractise this motion
- Grand FinalTH as Nawaz Sharif, W actively seek a political agreement with Imran KhanPractise this motion
- Schools FinalTHBT the present condition of humanity is better than it would be in 100 years time.Practise this motion
LUMS IV 20238 motions
- Round 1THBT feminist movements should adopt feminist icons that are adversarial and embody violence as opposed to icons that promote traditional norms, monetary prosperity, and working within the system through cooperation.Practise this motion
- Round 2TH opposes the bowdlerizing of works that are insensitive to modern cultural standardsPractise this motion
- Round 3THBT states should classify organized crime syndicates as terrorist groupsPractise this motion
- Round 4This House Believes that Western tech companies should enter into authoritarian markets, even at the expense of conforming to local laws and regulations (e.g China, Saudi Arabia, Qatar)Practise this motion
- QuarterfinalsTHBT religious leaders should abandon the use of the "Test of God" narrative in religious preaching.Practise this motion
- SemifinalsTHS the increasing prominence of data journalism at the expense of qualitative journalismPractise this motion
- Grand FinalTH, as the PDM, regrets the vote of no confidencePractise this motion
- Novice FinalsTHR the trend of students from developing countries choosing to further their tertiary education in institutions from developed countriesPractise this motion
LUMS IV 20219 motions
- Round 1THW limit parenthood to those who have obtained a state licensePractise this motion
- Round 2THW allow judges to declare disputed contracts (e.g. consumer, employment, rental, etc.) void if they fail the CCA testPractise this motion
- Round 3THP a world where crystals indicating mental health (not momentary mood) existed for every human beingPractise this motion
- Round 4THR the 2004 enlargement of the European UnionPractise this motion
- Round 5THR the rise of hook-up culturePractise this motion
- Pre-SemifinalsTHBT newly democratised post-revolution states should provide reserved seats in their legislative bodies for every group that actively supported the revolution processPractise this motion
- SemifinalsTH, as Mahira Khan, would accept the offerPractise this motion
- Grand FinalTHW legalise gladiatorial battles, with all laws suspended inside the arena and battles broadcasted onlinePractise this motion
- Novice FinalsTHW permit soldiers to refuse to participate in military actions or missions on the basis of consciencePractise this motion
The break, year by year
The points that were safe, the last team in and how many broke, at each edition with results.
| Year | Safe on (points) | Last team in (speaks) | Teams broke |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | 8 | 74.6 | 12 of 43 |
| 2024 | 7 | not recorded | 16 of 32 |
| 2023 | 8 | 77.0 | 16 of 42 |
| 2021 | 10 | not recorded | 12 of 51 |
How speakers score here
Speaker averages, what finishing high has taken, and the top speeches at this edition.
- average speaker score, 2 editions
- 75.9
- where most speakers land
- 73.9 to 77.9
What finishing high has taken
- Top speaker81.3
- 10th speaker78.0
- 20th speaker77.3
Median speaker average at each finishing spot, 2 editions.
Top speeches
| Debater | Speech | Motion | Score |
|---|---|---|---|
| 🇵🇰 Imaad J. | OODLO | TH, as an up-and-coming young game designer, W rather work in an indie studio rather than a triple A studio | 82 |
| Ali B. | OOLO | Assuming the technology exists, THBT it is immoral to create simulated alternate universes | 82 |
| Ali B. | CGMG | This House prefers British Parliamentary to 3v3 debating | 81 |
| Ali B. | OOLO | TH, as an up-and-coming young game designer, W rather work in an indie studio rather than a triple A studio | 81 |
| Ali B. | COMO | This house supports the use of the Moneyball strategy over traditional evaluations in team sports. | 81 |
| Ashar I. | CGMG | Assuming the technology exists, THBT it is immoral to create simulated alternate universes | 81 |
| Ashar I. | COMO | This House prefers British Parliamentary to 3v3 debating | 80 |
| 🇵🇰 Imaad J. | COOW | This house supports the use of the Moneyball strategy over traditional evaluations in team sports. | 80 |
| 🇵🇰 Imaad J. | CGGW | This House prefers British Parliamentary to 3v3 debating | 80 |
| Hooria S. | COOW | Assuming the technology exists, THBT it is immoral to create simulated alternate universes | 80 |
| 🇵🇰 Imaad J. | OODLO | Assuming the technology exists, THBT it is immoral to create simulated alternate universes | 80 |
| Najaf | OGPM | This House prefers British Parliamentary to 3v3 debating | 79 |